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About This "Roundabout" Situation

By Janet Evans
Tuesday, Jul 15 2008, 06:45 AM


 

 I lived in Hollywood, Florida back in the early 70s.  Nice city back then and right on the Gold Coast. 

Hollywood had three roundabouts, but they were called “Circles.”  The thing is, they were created correctly.  They were huge...large enough to house a park, or an entire building and grounds.   

They had several  lanes of traffic in either direction...they were a system.  The Circles were not an ill placed intrusion …or an afterthought.  They were part of a grand vision and we were actually proud of these areas in our city.  

Here is an ariel view of one of the Circles so you can see just how large they were:





"Joseph Young first arrived in South Florida in January 1920 to survey several parcels of land that would be suitable for the site of his "Dream City in Florida." His initial vision included a wide boulevard extending from the ocean westward to the edge of the Everglades with man-made lakes paralleling each side of the roadway. One end of each lake would empty into the Intracoastal Waterway and the other would serve as a twin turning basin for private yachts. Also included in Young's vision was the sectioning of Hollywood into districts, a precursor of present day zoning regulations, with a centrally located business district, large park spaces, a golf course, schools, and churches. Hollywood, in Joseph Young's vision, "will be a city for everyone - from the opulent at the top of the industrial and social ladder to the most humble of working people." Unique in Young's city plan was the incorporation of three large circles of land located along his planned principal boulevard. These circles became the sites of a ten-acre park (originally named Harding Circle and later renamed Young Circle), the City Hall complex (originally named City Hall Circle and later renamed Watson Circle), and a military academy (Academy Circle.) Academy Circle, now Presidential Circle, is the current site of a focal commercial structure. Having formerly lived in California, Young chose as the name of his "Dream City" the name of the Southern California town that had once been so attractive to him."

The entire article can be found at the website of the City of Hollywood, Florida


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The roundabouts that are popping up are an embarrassment and a waste of taxpayer dollars.  They are confusing, an accident waiting to happen.  I have overheard some residents of Franklin say they will avoid streets with these roundabouts.

Maybe that's the intention....Is the city trying to cut down on traffic on certain city streets?

The city has taken Drexel Avenue, which I thought was a public street, as in, "belongs to all of us," and turned it into something that belongs in a gated community.  Unless we are all driving Mini Coopers....those mini-roundabouts are a BIG MISTAKE.

Whoever the monkeys are who came up with this concept?  Take a lesson from Joseph Young from the 1920s.  At least he had vision.



 

 

 

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Scott Thinnes   

Roundabouts may be a useful design if used in the few places where they should be used. Most European influenced roundabouts are large with several intersecting diagonal streets. The only thing I've seen here are at two street intersections and then some are just at entrances to parking lots. Why haven't we built them at the intersections of Forest Home - Oklahoma & 43RD Street, or Oklahoma - 92ND Street & Beloit Road, those are two examples of intersections where roundabouts should be used, but they would take up a huge amount of space.

They say they are safer. I've never seen a comparison given where they study a standard intersection for several years and then rebuild the intersection into a roundabout and compare the results. No, instead someone just ordains it a good idea and we start building them everywhere. They are terribly unsafe for pedestrians and bicyclists. And have you ever seen a semi tractor trailer try to negotiate one? If you're in one and see a semi coming, get out as fast as possible, especially if you're riding a bike. If you're in a car... expect to wait. Depending on the size of the truck and the diameter of the roundabout they can take up two lanes and the truck apron that is usually designed into the roundabout. Semi drivers must really love the roundabouts.

At the DOT meeting for the 27TH Street Corridor that I attended a few weeks ago, I saw the plans for the reconstruction of the road and they indicated that there are roundabout design alternatives for almost every intersection from Rawson Avenue south. I asked the traffic engineer if they had any roundabout plans for the intersections north of Rawson Avenue. I was told that the traffic volumes to the north were too high to accommodate roundabouts. So what's going to happen when the Boomgaard starts to boom in the years to come and we've got roundabouts at all of the intersections? Hey let's just rebuild the street... again.

On a related note... I've driven through the rebuilt Drexel Avenue between Loomis Road and Highway 100. Why is the rebuilt street four lanes wide east of the roundabout and then west of it, where all of the traffic congestion will begin to build as cars are slowing down and turning into or coming out of the shopp(e)ing center and subdivision, or approaching the busy Highway 100 intersection, the road is narrowed down to one lane in each direction with a wide center island and a bike lane out in the traffic?

July 15, 2008 9:33 AM

Bryan Maersch   

I believe the idea came from alien crop circles. But Agent Mulder can not confirm or deny the legitimacy of this allegation.

July 15, 2008 9:22 PM

Janet Evans   

I don't know, Bryan...

I think Stonehenge may have been the first official "roundabout."  And, I heard Al Gore invented it.

July 15, 2008 9:46 PM

Bryan Maersch   

But where is the bike path??????? Oh it's only on one side.

July 16, 2008 10:54 AM

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